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4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« on: July 07, 2020, 09:39:54 pm »

Here's my current files: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B4fsJiYbpgVaXm2e2fW9FJwsjuGehEcQ?usp=sharing

Finished the note positions and durations. Gonna do the pitches tomorrow.
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2020, 05:37:54 pm »
Nice! This one has been on my personal todo list for a long time.

And maybe you were going to do this anyway, but:
- I can provide directly-from-bandcamp ogg for a release version (or any other format if that's easier to develop with) if it's needed. (going by the metadata of the mp3, I assume the current source is youtube? (which is totally fine to make the txt with))
- Background can be 1920x1080
- I'm not really a fan of these kind of videos, but have some youtube-dl'd ones (no audio) in 1080p or 720p: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UKmz5z_zAjhcaTtSxZP0fEpwJ-M6M8Re/view?usp=sharing
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2020, 06:07:40 pm »
I don't understand why the release version from bandcamp would make a difference for developing the song; neither do I understand why I would want to use a webm version of the videos.
Anyway thanks for you help ^^
If you want to work together on the song, I am currently unable to do the pitches until - likely - tuesday next week. I'd really appreciate it if you want to do them :D
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2020, 01:35:06 pm »
With pitches: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lWKtqCyp-hoTnAIK_MKzdhkfXisdtrFG/view?usp=sharing
There's a few pitches that I'm still a bit onsure of, but the majority of them should be good.

NB: I did not touch any timings, except when I split a note in two because (I think) it was spread across two pitches. Did some test singing on Hard, not the greatest scores (around 5k, should be higher on a slower song like this*). Part of that is due to me having to "octave switch" at certain places, but the notes are also quite close together and in some places the timing feels a little bit off (enough to be noticable but close enough that it might be on my end, hence me not touching any timings yet).

Also, the "freestyle sentences" with the parentheses around them (towards the end of the song) were really distracting during my test singing. They go by very quickly, and there's a sentence directly after them. I left them in for now (linebreaks and some long sentences will probably need to be tweaked anyway) but I think I would just remove the freestyle sentences completely.

And no, I didn't mean that the Bandcamp version (or which video, or even what background/cover) has anything to do with developing the song, because it doesn't**. I meant it more as a "if this is to be released at some point, those assets will probably have to be updated, might as well do it now". But I usually first collect as many assets as I can before I even start, mostly because otherwise I will probably forget :D for now this is fine.

* this is still miles better than the average (non-pony) txt found on the internet
** there appears to be a GAP difference between mp3 and any other format. But especially if you're using Yass, you're kinda stuck with mp3.
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2020, 01:47:04 pm »
Sweet! Thanks a lot for your help! <3

I'm going to doublecheck the timings as soon as I have a microphone again (Probably tomorrow afternoon). You're totally right about the freestlye sentences - it sorta felt right to add them while editing but in the end it's really just distracting.

Going to update the assets now too :D
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2020, 03:02:01 pm »
Nevermind my own words.
Wanted to at least take a look at the timings and now went through the whole song again. They should be fine now :D

Going to add a properly cropped cover image and update it all to the gdrive link (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B4fsJiYbpgVaXm2e2fW9FJwsjuGehEcQ?usp=sharing)
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2020, 01:55:12 pm »
Sorry this took forever to get back to. In short:
- The freestyle sentences being gone make a huge difference, that section of the song works so much better now
- Timing has noticeably improved

There's probably still a lot of tweaks that could be done to this (Yass will at least yell about linebreaks) but the overall song is definitely taking shape now. I don't know the song all that well (normally, at this point I can dream the song) but even messing up two or three lines completely it's not difficult to get above 8500 (on Medium)

I can hopefully take a closer look the coming days/weekend, and also double check the pitches while I'm at it, but atm I can't really promise a when.
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2020, 05:00:03 pm »
Alright thanks in advance :D
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2020, 06:34:10 pm »
Sorry this took forever again (I'm noticing a theme here) to get to. Made a lot of small changes, it's still not perfect: timing-wise I can't make it perfect anyway, but there's also some notes that I'm not sure if I should have splitted them or not... Regardless, I'm getting >6500 Hard / >9000 Medium now:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AqlsvANOIHEodrhHJwF9yu5g7AKHDrm0/view?usp=sharing
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2020, 08:50:35 pm »
Awesome!

I love how it turned out :D
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2020, 11:25:34 am »
4EB recently released two albums full of instrumentals (go get them, they're fantastic), and Stay (the 2018 re-record) was one of the tracks. So here's a new version that contains both versions:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/124Uucqo1FFbtT5xy7BZu_TtGcXxZ3DHG/view?usp=sharing

I've taken the liberty of:
- also replacing the regular track with the bandcamp ogg, so that GAP is the same for both
- added a proper background, which is a resize of https://derpibooru.org/images/1502189
- removed the video for now because these versions are timed differently and I didn't want to mess around with VIDEOGAP. If someone wants to add them back, files are in reply #1
- did some cleanup/capitalization in EDITION, ARTIST and TITLE

(I didn't change any of the actual notes)
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2020, 03:30:34 pm »
UPDATE: I update the version in my above post. The #LANGUAGE tag was missing.
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Re: 4everfreebrony - Stay (2018 re-record)
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2020, 05:26:08 pm »
Awesome!
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